How To Crimp Steel Cable Without A Crimper

pyromallat

Hi there
So i want to put a mono line on my new gun with crimps simply i looked.at a lot of line-fishing and hardware stores and i cant find any crimpers ... and i read that normal pliers and side cutters dont take the ability to secure a crimp properly so i was wondering would a manual printing or. Hydrolic press will practice the job? The manual press is a rotating screw type of press... its rly powerful and it volition even curve thick steel water pipes... and so volition information technology piece of work?

Mr. X · May 30, 2016

You don't need a fancy tool, crimps are very soft, you tin can use pliers. I use a very cheap, uncomplicated electrical crimper, which I bought 30 years ago, they are however bachelor all over the place for about £iii or £4; the reward of this tool is that it is "bi-cusped", e.thousand. information technology leaves a sort of round-ish pigsty when airtight - non essential just helpful.

Mushroom (melt) the end of your spearline, to stop it pulling through. "Belt & bracers" security: Superglue the whole thing when done.

pyromallat

You don't need a fancy tool, crimps are very soft, you can use pliers. I utilise a very cheap, uncomplicated electric crimper, which I bought 30 years ago, they are still available all over the place for virtually £3 or £4; the reward of this tool is that it is "bi-cusped", eastward.k. it leaves a sort of circular-ish pigsty when closed - not essential but helpful.
Mushroom (melt) the finish of your spearline, to stop it pulling through. "Belt & bracers" security: Superglue the whole thing when done.

thank u a lot for the aid... u just made my life a lot easier

Bill McIntyre · January 27, 2005 3,512 i,242 368 83

I accept to disagree with Mr. X. Get a real crimper with jaws perfectly sized for your crimps. And get crimps perfectly sized for your mono. Melting the end of the mono is good. When you lot shoot the fish of a lifetime, you lot'll be glad you accept proper crimps.

http://www.neptonicsystems.com/crimper.php

Leave a picayune flare at the ends of the crimp so that it doesn't cut into the mono.

Mr. X · Jul 14, 2005 8,254 1,687 418

Excellent, you now have both sides to the story to consider: proper/pro-tool vs. cheap & cheerful - nosotros aim to cover all the bases

That one looks very nice & practiced value Beak but prices for crimpers in the UK that I have seen sold for this purpose are typical 2x to 4x the price of that one (& shipping + import duty here would bump the toll of that ane up significantly ) and really are unnecessary for the soft aluminium crimps, monofilamet lines & fish here in the Great britain (no 100lb white bass here unfortunately). The crimps used here are comparable in thickness to the wall of a mod Coke tin can, perhaps a tad thicker.

BTW Bill what sort of crimps do y'all use (aluminium/steel/brass) - do they require such a heavy duty tool or is there some other benefit?

I was surprised at how easy the crimps that we employ are to crimp - as I actually used whipping cord initially instead of crimps. I've used 3 or 4 dissimilar brands/sources of crimps and found my old electrical curling perfectly fine for the job. I recollect Foxfish just used snipe nose pliers at one time. I was glad I didn't splash out £thirty-£48 unnecessarily. Also my crimper tool is small, slim, light & inexpensive, so I take them with me in my dive box. I am not claiming information technology is in any manner wonderful just that it is more than adequate. Mine await like this merely with yellow handles:
Just £i.88 including free shipping from ebay at present - about half the price I paid 35 years agone in Halfords!

If y'all opt for a more expensive tool, you might want consider

stainless steel if information technology is likely to get salty (due east.m. on a gunkhole).

foxfish · December 31, 2005 13,023 iii,131 478 63

Yes I did at one fourth dimension use round pliers to crimp the middle only that was before the double crimp design was readily bachelor.
I now employ a basic crimping tool bought from a local electrical goods store, cost effectually £xx.
The important things to get right (as nib points out) is to flare the ends & hulk the nylon.
MrX, I hold we don't need to pay every bit much attending to perfect crimping in the U.k. merely as I at present use quite sparse mono I practice endeavor a lot harder than I used to.

Bill McIntyre · Jan 27, 2005 iii,512 1,242 368 83

We are fortunate to take larger fish, and so this makes united states of america more sensitive to details such as crimps. In the last week we've had a rare run of bluefin tuna north of the Mexican border and 1 of my friends shot a 242 pounder. I believe at least two over 300 pounds were shot. I doubtfulness that I'll have a shot at one of those before Trump builds his wall, only promise springs eternal, and I want to be gear up.

The crimps about commonly used here are copper and aluminum. I usually apply copper. The crimps in the Neptonics ad are copper, and y'all can get a decent idea of the thickness in that photo. I just tried to take a photo of an aluminum crimp and a copper crimp, but the Neptonics photo is amend.

I should confess that I deport a crimper like the Neptonics in a tackle box on my boat just in case I'm forced to rerig at sea, merely the one I actually use at home is much bigger. Information technology has tremendous mechanical reward then that I hardly experience any resistance when squeezing the crimp, and the jaws are wide enough so that one squeeze in the center leaves a perfect flare at each end. With the smaller crimpers like the one in my tackle box, the jaw are narrow and so that y'all have to move them downwards the length of the crimp and squeeze twice.

I consider the larger crimper to be essential for crimping stainless steel cable, but information technology costs over $100 and is likewise large to take on my boat.

Mr. X

That'd be completely OTT for our crimps Bill, very little force is required. Such huge mechanical advantage would be absurdly excessive - like cutting your toes nails with bolt-croppers. However, accurate size & shape might help, as long as the chosen tool has the right size & shape for the line & crimps used.

That said, I was impressed past quality of Rob Allen crimps. They employ(d) a professional demote-mounted curling.

Hi Foxfish, the crimpers I apply work well with double barrel crimps - that's all I use.
Crimping double barrel crimps:

Ref. http://leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/crimp_techniques.html

saltysunburns

My ii cents on crimpers are to inspect the crimping jaws on the crimper y'all decide to purchase, the cheaper chinese tools have sloppy tolerances and volition touch the quality of your crimps...look for uniformity in the crimp jaws and that they are aligned properly and have shine edges. I have never seen i of my crimps pull out, as long as you crimped correctly with sufficient strength the mono should neglect before the crimp lets the line slip through; only if a melted blob of mono and superglue gives you lot extra peace of mind then go for it. I as well use copper crimps with steel cable in industrial applications, and have seen steel cable suspension from communicable on hydraulic rams and the crimps were withal holding. Another thing when crimping your shooting line is to pay attending to what side your line is going to be strung and then you dont end up with a twist in your line one time you load your gun.

Kodama

That said, I was impressed past quality of Rob Allen crimps. They use(d) a professional person bench-mounted crimper.

Would dearest to see a picture of the benchmounted crimper. It would be nice to make such a tool for my store.

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Bill McIntyre · Jan 27, 2005 3,512 1,242 368 83

I call up it'south probably a office of the big game fishing that nosotros have. Rigging is very important when you're communicable marlin and tuna.

Iris Reid

Hello there
So i want to put a mono line on my new gun with crimps but i looked.at a lot of fishing and hardware stores and i deceit detect any crimpers ... and i read that normal pliers and side cutters dont take the power to secure a crimp properly so i was wondering would a manual press or. Hydrolic press will do the job? The transmission printing is a rotating screw type of press... its rly powerful and information technology will even bend thick steel water pipes... and so will it work?

I think you purchase crimper from online stores similar Amazon, eBay, etc. These stores provide you all types of crimper similar demote curling, bench swage, hardware wire crimper, etc.

How To Crimp Steel Cable Without A Crimper

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